"The Coaching Culture Podcast Episode 462 cover: Coach the Coach, How to Collect Before You Direct, with clinical psychologist Dr. Jody Carrington on coach emotional regulation and team culture."

Episode 462: Coach the Coach: How to Collect Before You Direct| Dr. Jody Carrington | Episode 462

July 05, 20264 min read

Episode 462: Coach the Coach: How to Collect Before You Direct| Dr. Jody Carrington

Podcast accessible on: iTunes | Spotify | YouTube

If you have ever sat in your car after a rough loss, wondering why you cannot shake it the way you used to, you are not alone. Inside TOC Coach, I hear versions of this every week: the tank is empty, the patience is short, and nobody ever taught us what to do about it.

That is exactly what this conversation with Dr. Jody Carrington gets into. She has spent her career studying what happens to people under real pressure, from a locked psychiatric unit to elite sports organizations, and her answer is refreshingly simple: the coach's nervous system sets the ceiling for the team's. She walks through the neuroscience of what happens when we flip our lid, and why the phrase collect before you direct deserves a spot on every whiteboard.

This is part one of a two-part conversation, and it is the kind of episode that changes how you handle your very next hard conversation with a player. Give it your full attention.


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3 QUOTES WORTH WRITING DOWN

"If the big people aren't okay, the little people don't stand a chance."

— Dr. Jody Carrington

"We will never automate relationship. No matter how good we get at having a front row seat in AI, the only AI that's going to matter if you want your team to be amazing is authentic interaction."

— Dr. Jody Carrington

"You don't lose your ability to be great. You don't lose the best golf swing you've ever taken in your life. You lose access to it."

— Dr. Jody Carrington

2 QUESTIONS FOR YOUR TEAM

Q1: Where in your program are you investing in athlete performance but not in your own emotional regulation as a coach?

Q2: Think of the last time you corrected an athlete in the moment. Had you collected enough relationships first for that correction to land?

1 RESOURCE TO GO DEEPER

More from Dr. Jody Carrington

Her ongoing work on emotional regulation, connection, and leadership under pressure delves deeper into everything covered in this episode. Find more, including her Unlonely podcast, books, and speaking dates, at www.drjodycarrington.com


KEY TAKEAWAYS

Coach Regulation Is the Missing Variable in Athlete Development. Dr. Jody Carrington argues that nearly every resource in sport goes toward optimizing athlete performance while almost nothing addresses the emotional regulation of the coach. The emotional state of the adult in the room sets the ceiling for what the team can access, no matter how good the practice plan is.

You Cannot Learn With Your Lid Flipped. Using a simple hand model of the brain, Jody explains that the prefrontal cortex, where everything a person has ever learned lives, goes offline the moment someone becomes emotionally dysregulated. A kid getting yelled at mid-mistake is neurobiologically incapable of absorbing the lesson in that moment.

Collect Before You Direct. Before a coach can correct behavior, they need a relationship strong enough for the athlete's lid to stay on. Jody frames connection and correction as sequential rather than competing. You earn the right to direct hard truths by collecting the relationship first.

Intensity Isn't the Problem, Timing Is. Responding to the question of whether some athletes want a coach who gets in their face, Jody points to Tom Izzo as proof that the coaches who can push hardest are usually the ones who have already built the deepest relationships. The yelling people see on TV is rarely the whole story.

Your Nervous System Gets Hijacked Before You Even Get Out of Bed. Jody walks through how notifications, parent group chats, and doomscrolling spike cortisol before a coach's day even starts, leaving less capacity to handle a bad call or a hard conversation with a player. Naming the pattern is the first step to interrupting it.

Coaching Is Development Work, Not Just Performance Work. Only a tiny fraction of athletes will ever play beyond high school. In Jody's view, the real job of a coach is to build humans who can handle conflict, disappointment, and each other, not just produce wins.


ACTION ITEMS FOR LEADERS AND COACHES

TRY THE HAND MODEL THIS WEEK

Use Dr. Jody's hand model of the brain the next time you talk to a dysregulated athlete. Wrap your fingers around your thumb and show them what flipping your lid actually looks like.

AUDIT YOUR MORNING ROUTINE

Notice how many notifications, group chats, or scrolling sessions spike your cortisol before you even leave the house. Pick one to remove this week.

COLLECT BEFORE YOU CORRECT

Before your next hard conversation with an athlete, ask whether you have banked enough relationship equity to be heard. If not, spend this week building it.

LEARN ONE PLAYER'S DOG'S NAME

Learn one small, personal detail about an athlete you have not yet connected with. Use it in conversation this week and notice what changes.


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Austin Junker

Head Coach, Athletic Administrator, Podcast Producer & Operations Lead at TOC

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